Saturn SL/2 Stuck Brake Rotors
Disclaimer: don't work on your brakes unless you know what you're
doing. I take no responsibility for any issues that arise from the
following advice. If in doubt, always consult a professional (which I am
not).
This is not a complete brake rotor or pad changing guide. This is
just about getting the stuck rotor removed.
I tried it all:
- Hammering
- PB Blaster
- Waiting
- Hammering
- WD-40
- Waiting
- Hammering
- Heat
- Hammering
- etc.
Dang thing wouldn't budge. Watched a ton of YouTube videos that assured
me that this thing would definitely work—it works every time.
You know the ones.
(On that note, I certainly don't guarantee this will work.)
A lone comment on a YouTube video mentioned "the bolt trick" that worked
for them. The video didn't mention anything about bolts, but I found
another comment that loosely described it.
So I'm going to more concretely describe it here.
Step 0: Remove the Caliper and Bracket
When I did this, I was changing the pads anyway, so I removed the
caliper and the bracket.
The service manual says that when you reinstall, you must use
high-temperature thread locker on the bracket fasteners when
reinstalling, or else use new fasteners.
This image shows the bracket bolts—here I've already removed
the caliper:
You'll need leverage to remove those fasteners, or heat. They're on
tight. If you can't get access, maybe (carefully if on a stand) cranking
the wheel over might help, but I didn't do this.
Hang the entire caliper and bracket assembly from the strut spring with
a bungee or wire. (Or just hang the caliper if you've removed it from
the caliper bracket.)
Step 1: Chemicals
I sprayed PB Blaster (many recommend WD-40) into the lug bolt holes and
around the axle. I let that sit for hours. I have no idea if that
helped.
Step 2: Hammering
I hammered around the rotor at the locations indicated below.
I put the lug nuts on the end on the bolts to prevent me from
missing and messing up the threads! I also used a brass driver to
separate my hammer impact from the lug bolts. You don't want to mess
those up—"It would be bad."
Some Internet commenters said to never hammer on the braking surface as
the rotor could shatter. I don't know about this, but I didn't try it.
I like to think hammering did something to loosen up the rust, but have
no way to measure this. Lots of mud and crap fell out of the rotor while
I was hammering it, though.
Those areas are also where I applied heat on one of the rotors. I
didn't bother with heat on the second rotor.
Step 3: The Bolt Trick, At Last
When you do this, you'll want to do it a little at a time. Don't
just put the bolt on and start cinching it down—you'll probably bend
something that isn't meant to bend! "It would be bad." We're going to do
a little, then rotate the rotor, then a little more, then rotate,
etc.
The idea is that you're going to get a long bolt that's the same
diameter as the bracket mounting bolts. You're going to put it through
the same hole as the bracket mounting bolt (which is unthreaded), and
the put a nut on the other side of the hole.
I chose the top bracket mounting hole because it seemed to have more
meat and I didn't want to bend anything.
Here it is shown with the rotor already removed:
Now you have a press! You can hold the bolt with a wrench and tighten
the nut and it'll apply force on the rotor. In particular, it applies it
to this little fortuitously-placed lip on the rotor. When you start
to tighten it, verify that the bolt is pressing against this and not
slipping off! "It would be bad."
A demonstration of where the bolt presses on the rotor:
- Put the car in neutral (making sure you're on a jackstand and the
emergency brake is on and the wheels are chocked).
- Tighten the nut on the press until it seats in that little lip on
the rotor.
- Tighten it another half turn or so, applying a bit of force but not
going overboard. When pressing, observe the rotor face against the
lug bolts. You might see some outward motion, or you might not. The goal
is to see some small movement.
- Loosen the press all the way and rotate the rotor (the wheel) a
quarter of a turn.
- Repeat this three more times to get all the way around the rotor.
- Do it all again, looking for the rotor face to move against the lug
bolts. Maybe apply a little more force this time around.
- Repeat it all until the rotor breaks free. Mine did it with little
fanfare and just sort of eased off.
Both of my rotors came off after about 1.5 rotations of the rotor using
this technique.
Before installing the new rotor
- Be sure to clean its braking surface with brake cleaner to remove
the manufacturer's oil.
- Remove rust from the wheel mounting surfaces with a wire brush.
The service manual (2000 Saturn SL/2) says this about the bracket
mounting bolts:
NOTICE: Clean caliper support bracket fasteners thoroughly with
brake and choke cleaner (P/N 21007432 or equivalent). Apply a high
temperature thread locker (Loctite 2728 or equivalent) to caliper
support bracket fasteners. If Loctite 2720 (or equivalent) is not
available, new caliper support bracket fasteners must be used.
Good luck!
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