Currently, I know of versions of Moria for UNIX (BSD/SYS V/Xenix), VMS, IBM-PC, Atari ST, Amiga, Macintosh, Apple IIGS, VM/SP, and Archimedes (a British micro). There may be other versions that I do not know of. First of all, here is a short summary of the major Moria versions that I know of. Note that these are all different games, although they are all recognizable as Moria. Moria 4.8: last version of the game by the original authors, R.A. Koeneke et al of the Univ. Oklahoma, written in VMS/Pascal Moria UB 5.0: VMS/Pascal, contains a Black Market, more monsters, from Univ. Buffalo (SUNY Buffalo?), considered the current VMS version, based on Moria 4.8 Imoria: from Univ. Washington, never officially released outside of UW, VMS/Pascal, I do not know much about this version PC-Moria 4.00+: an IBM-PC/Pascal port of Moria 4.8, by John W. DeBoskey, I do not know much about this version, probably more faithful to the original program than PC-Moria 4.873, can run in 512K, for more info contact mcnc!rti!sas!jwd@rutgers.edu Umoria 4.87: a UNIX/C version by Jim Wilson of UC Berkeley, based on Moria 4.8, this has since been ported to many other environments (PC, Mac, Atari ST, Apple IIGS, Amiga, VM/SP, Archimedes), 4.83 based versions (PC-Moria 4.83 and Apple IIGS 4.83) are very buggy, 4.85 versions are OK, 4.87 versions are best, there are two PC versions: PC-Moria for MSC which requires 640K and tc-moria for Turbo C which can run in 512K (the standard version is PC-Moria) Amiga Moria v3.0: based on Umoria 4.85, adds graphics, monsters, and the infamous Godly-Might weapons Umoria 5.x: successor of umoria 4.87, adds monster memory (recall), look any direction, stat bugs fixes, and many other changes, one source version which supports UNIX, IBM-PC, Mac, Atari ST, Amiga, and VMS. How to get a copy depends on which version you want, and what network and other resources you have access too. It is far too involved to include every case here. If none of these apply, you can send me mail. Be specific about what you want. ********* From BITNET/EUNET: The PC and Apple II GS versions are available from the LISTSERV at UTARLVM1. The UNIX and VM/SP versions are available from the LISTSERV at BLEKUL11. The Mac version is available from the info-mac archives. There is a server at PUCC, I believe, that handles this. ************** From Internet: Here are some anonymous ftp sites where you can get Moria from... UNIX: uunet.uu.net (North America), sunic.sunet.se (Europe), in the directory comp.sources.games/volume5/umoria2 Atari ST: terminator.cc.umich.edu Amiga Moria v3.0: jyu.fi PCMoria 4.00+: hotel.cis.ksu.edu (contact jwd to get more recent versions) Apple IIGS: husc6.harvard.edu MacMoria: sumex.stanford.edu In addition, I have a moria ftp archive on kukulcan.Berkeley.EDU (Internet number 128.32.131.190), which has a copy of everything listed at the top except for Imoria, PC-Moria 4.00+ and the VM/SP and Archimedes ports of umoria. *************** The UNIX sources are available via anonymous UUCP from various places in the US. Tell me where you are, and I can tell you the nearest UUCP site. ************** Check with local user groups or commercial services. For example, I know that BCS, BMUG, Genie, and Compuserve all have copies of MacMoria 4.87. Also, try posting a request to rec.games.moria with a local distribution. Someone nearby may already have a copy. ********************* If all else fails, you can get a copy from me via the mail. I can put anything on a Mac floppy, I can put everything onto a 9-track tape in UNIX tar format, I can put the IBM-PC version onto PC diskettes (I can put other things onto IBM-PC versions but there will be a delay, as I have to find time to do the download). Send me email for more info. I have copies of the following: sources: Moria 4.8 (VMS/Pascal), Moria 5.0 (VMS/Pascal), Umoria 4.87 (C), PC-Moria 4.873 (MSC), TC-Moria 4.873 (Turbo C), Atari ST 4.85 (MWC, diffs from Umoria 4.85), Umoria 5.x (C) binaries: PC-Moria 4.873, TC-Moria 4.873 (512K and 640K), Amiga Moria v3.0, Amiga Umoria 4.85, MacMoria 4.87, Apple II GS 4.83 *********************** I do not email Moria sources/binaries. ************************** Jim Wilson wilson@ernie.Berkeley.EDU